Point Lookout NY After Hurricane / Superstorm Sandy

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Boats on whats left of the Dock at The East Marina. Hurricane Sandy Point Lookout, NY

Boats on whats left of the Dock at The East Marina. Hurricane Sandy Point Lookout, NY

Point Lookout and Hurricane Sandy Day 1 (Sunday)

We did plan that if things were looking like they would be bad on Monday, we would evacuate to family in Valley Stream.
After the 3PM declaration of Mandatory Evacuation, we decided in light of the total lack of, conflicting and the lack of believable information, to just head out for higher ground.
Standing in Associated Marketplace in Long Beach At 2PM was just a crazy rumor mill, but it was all part of the lack of believable and half-truth information that was floating. Add to that –everyone else seemed to have the same idea as I did- when I walked in there were an average aount of shoppers, by the time I finished, there were 5 or 6 people on each line plus many others shopping and others coming in, still. They say the best rumor is one that has a shred of truth. Here’s what I overheard:
“I hear they’re closing down the Loop Parkway as of 4PM so you have to get out now” (turned out to be true. CBS News was reporting that, but they failed to mention it was only In To Town, you can still leave).
“yeah, I hear they’re closing Atlantic Beach Bridge this evening, too” also turned out to be true, once again only to traffic to Atlantic Beach, not the mainland.
I headed down to Bob’s Natural Foods for some other items and saw stores boarding up and sand bagging. Was wondering what they knew that I didn’t. I mean 12 guys out front of the new stores by Don Juan.
Well, every one knows the Long Beach Bridge floods before those others. We made emergency packing a priority got some bags together got the cooler out, and to ready to leave.
“Surprise” I told my family in Valley Stream, “we’ll be there in a couple of hours”.

Point Lookout and Hurricane Sandy Day 2 (Monday)

Hunkered down in Valley Stream for the day. By Noon, it seemed like an average rain and windstorm and I did manage to get that last post out with all intents of updating as the day went on. Sandy had different ideas and we lost power and internet by about 2PM. So much for the update.
Everyone has his or her stories of the storm. We were worried about the 100+ ft. trees surrounding us, but made it through with no real damage and no craziness. By midnight, the gusts were done.

The story in Point Lookout During the storm

Those who stayed said that power went out about 6PM. During the high tide, at about 8PM, the bay was rising up into town, foot by foot. It had backed up over most streets north of Lido Blvd, with Mineola and Lynbrook worst hit, but did make its way up past Lido Blvd towards Beech. Hewlett Ave going from Beech went from mostly dry to 6 inches, to about 12-15 inches above the street at Lido Blvd. It lasted for about 1-2 hours then receded. Sandcastle Café report that somehow they had no flooding. others were not so lucky.

high water line on a neighbor's house

High water line on a neighbor’s house. Hurricane Sandy Point Lookout, NY

Bay Met the Ocean?

Well, there’s no clear evidence of such a thing, but correct me if you have other info. The Ocean definitely was into Ocean Ave, but it does not seem to have been extensive, far-reaching, or deep.

Power line down on Ocean Ave. Hurricane Sandy Point Lookout, NY

It is pretty clear the dunes saved us…at their expense.

te pavillion is now fron row on the water- no more Dunes, walls knocked down by the waves. Hurricane Sandy Point Lookout, NY

The pavillion is now fron row on the water- no more Dunes, walls knocked down by the waves. Hurricane Sandy Point Lookout, NY

Point Lookout and Hurricane Sandy Day 3 (Tuesday).

With no power we made the best of the day inValley . Our neighbor who lives in manhattan was one of several who (finally) got a call thru to us to see if we knew anything. He was going to try to get out and see what was going on. We agreed to touch base later.
Getting information was still ridiculously difficult, maybe worse as all we kept hearing was
1) Long Beach No Water. No Sewer
2) Meadowbrook parkway closed south of Merrick Rd.
3) That fine young journalist lady on the local news who was holed up in the Allegria talking the way she did during Irene. I’ll never forget the “live” shot of her struggling in the wind, with onlookers looking at her like she was crazy as they strolled by.

High water line aboiut 4 feet high on the fence across from the marina. Hurricane Sandy Point Lookout, NY

High water line about 4 feet high on the fence across from the marina. Hurricane Sandy Point Lookout, NY

No doubt, for me, the media Crying Wolf of the past 10-12 years of storms that fizzled out hurt me this time.
At about 3pm, our neighbor from Manhattan called- “where are you guys? I’ve been down here a while and am leaving now-it’s the first time I can get a call out, now we’ve lleft town. There’s no wind damage, all your windows are OK. I lost some siding, but it looks like we had a few inches of water in the street.”

With that, we stopped waiting and headed home. Turns out the State troopers are letting residents back into town.

Hurricane Sandy- no more dunes on 2nd beach Point Lookout

Hurricane Sandy- no more dunes on 2nd beach, Point Lookout

Coming over the bridge, we found a weird scene. The wind turbine is stopped, but seemingly undamaged(as expected). It’s once again stopped because the power is out, not the other way around.
The marina looks like toy boats got knocked around. The water put a few up on the dock itself. Other areas of dock are smashed or gone. It looks bad, but could’ve been worse.
Coming into town, to the naked eye, we found little damage, but the bay had receeded.
Right there at the marina, the fence it full of bay reeds and leaves that strained through the chain link, showing a real clear picture where the water had been up to-about 3-4 feet higher than Lido Blvd right there.

We found out some facts

* No Power- ive seen at least 2 power lines down plus numerous others that may or may not be electric.

* cellular reception. VERY VERY bad to none- you may need to leave town to get a call in or out.
* Water is safe to drink, but prohibited from watering lawns, plants, cleaning outside etc
* All Natural Gas shut down between the Bay and Lido Blvd.(as of Wednesday-

We had water right through our garage, but the house is OK. We have a crawl space, so no flooded basement. Don’t know how you all keep doing the basement thing.
The water did cover our pond, killing all the fish we have had for 10-12 years in their own, self-sustaining little ecosystem that required no feeding or new fish- all gone. Poor little guys.

Hurricane Sandy- "unprotected" sign Point Lookout

Hurricane Sandy- “unprotected” sign Point Lookout, NY

After getting set up, we headed to Island Park to check on family we hadn’t heard from
The scene out of town:
Driving to LB, we could see the high water mark on the fences by the TOH Park at about 4 feet above the sidewalk. thru LB, Park ave had signs of being washed out, cars set askew (by floating?- some by moving onto higher ground of the median). The Mobil gas station has a 6 inch puddle of sea water in the entire gas area.
Signs of major flooding into island park, especially at the bridge into Harbor Isle. Over the bridge looks like a parking lot-on a street no houses front on. Everone moved their cars here, we find out only to be flooded anyway. Family OK, no power like everywhere else. No one can believe the water came up here.
Headed back thru side streets in north east LB, I can see the damage: I see high water marks on houses about 4-5 ft above street level-whether that falls on your first or gound floor depends.
My wife sees a young woman carrying garbage bags of belongings, tears streaming down her face.
Haven’t heard back from the long Beach crew yet, but the phone is not really working so good.
We get home-tomorrow we have to start the clean out.

Sand washed up onto Ocean Blvd. Hurricane Sandy Point Lookout, NY

Sand washed up onto Ocean Blvd. Hurricane Sandy Point Lookout, NY

Looking west on Ocean Blvd. Hurricane Sandy Point Lookout, NY

Looking west on Ocean Blvd. Hurricane Sandy Point Lookout, NY

Point Lookout and Hurricane Sandy Day 4 (Wednesday).

Spent all day cleaning out the garage and yard. Not too much damage surprisingly, but everythings gotta air out or we’re gonna have a moldy mess.

the chair hut is washed up with the sand that used to be the dunes.

My wife’s garden is gone, that’s saying a lot. She spent the day cleaning it out, cutting down and making the best of it you can without using our water to wash things down, which is currently prohibited. We’re abiding by that because it’s the right thing to do. All the plants and the trees in the street are looking pretty sad from the salt water wash.
About noon, word came down the block National Grid are shutting down Gas to entire section of town from Lido Blvd to the Bay because of several gas leaks.
Got out to survey town. Some crazy pictures here.

wow-even the post office was closed. Hurricane Sandy Point Lookout, NY

wow-even the post office was closed. Hurricane Sandy Point Lookout, NY

Point Lookout and Hurricane Sandy Day 5 (Thursday).

We’ve left town to try to get gas today, evacuate our inlaws out of Island Park -also very hard hit- to family with power and heat.
Tried to get gas just way too crazy-half hour at te end of a mile longline that didn’t move for a half hour-people freaking out got the heck outta there.
Taking a couple hours at family in Glen Oaks Queens where they’ve got heat, hot water, power ineternet(obviously) and headed back to the Point tonight.
Hope everyone’s ok. Its gonna be a long week or so. We got hit pretty hard. Lido is bad, Island park is really bad, and what I’ve seen of Long Beach is worse. Don’t know about Atlantic Beach.  would think very bad.

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Monday Point Lookout and Hurricane Sandy

50% chance of 5-6 foot storm surge for Point Lookout Monday

Latest National Hurricane Center Storm Surge Probabilities numbers indicate 50% chance of 5-6 foot storm surge for Point Lookout / Long Beach / Lido Beach / Atlantic Beach for Monday.

Monday 11 AM update.

City of Long Beach is reporting: (noon update) LONG BEACH BRIDGE REOPENED after their earlier report:

Long Beach, New York‏@LongBeach11561

East & West Bridges are open to get out at this time, however the LB Bridge is currently closed.

i take this to mean as we said yesterday was most likely, there was flooding on the Island Park side by Starbucks?   anyone know?
i would imagine this means we should expect flooding again, most likely much worse at this eveinings next high tide(beginning probably HOURS BEFORE it).

there are some real flooding in other towns from last high tide- east rockaway, bellmore i kniow of. how are you?

rainfall and winds expected LOWER than reported yesterday

NWS Hydrometeorological Ptrediction Center Quantitative Precipitation Forecast as of Monday

Back down to about 2 inches of rain expected as per NWS Hydrometeorological Ptrediction Center Quantitative Precipitation Forecast as of Monday

as the storm tracks much farther south than the local sky-is-falling “news” outlets are still talking (but never showing), in fact their coverage is going with even crazier hype-up talk this morning.

NWS Warnings cone as of Monday

Monday National Hurricane Center storm track shows over 100 miles south of Long Island

did you stay or have you evacuated? any pictures, let us know.

stay safe!

Mandatory Evacuation For Long Beach Barrier Island

Just received official word from Point Lookout Civic Association…

Point Lookout
Lido Beach
Long Beach
Atlantic Beach
are under evacuation.

Loop Parkway bridge closed BEACHBOUND at 4pm today.
YOU CAN STILL EVACUATE VIA THIS OFFICIALLY DESIGNATED COASTAL EVACUATION ROUTE!
another of the media’s freak out half-information reports saying the road would be closed (CBS RADIO).

pack it up!
grab your “Go Kit”
stay safe.

Sunday and “Hurricane” Sandy in Point Lookout

Sunday National Weather Service Storm Track Prediction for Hurricane Sandy

Sunday National Weather Service Storm Track Prediction for Hurricane Sandy

Well, the storm is tracking a bit further north than yesterday’s projections, upping some of our expected effects.
Starting today’s update: to the best of our knowledge:
At the moment: only in LONG BEACH- a voluntary evacuation has been called for, other than to secure the infirm from Long Beach Hospital and neighboring elderly from Assisted Living Residences and nursing homes.

We are under a Coastal Flood Warning, meaning coastal flooding is likely.

MTA will be shutting down all service tonight at 7PM!!!
Mandatory Evacuation Far Rockaway!!

Here’s the National Weather Service Storm Surge Probability, right now showing a 50% probability for a greater than 3 foot storm surge for Long Beach, Atlantic Beach, Lido Beachh and Point Lookout, but only a 20% probability of greater than 4 foot storm surge. I would say that means at this point about 3 feet higher than normal high tides.

National Weather Service Storm Surge Probability Hurricane Sandy

National Weather Service Storm Surge Probability, about 3 feet higher than normal high tides

High tides at Jones Inlet / Point Lookout are:

Sun 28 7:06 AM EDT / 4.22 ft 7:26 PM EDT / 3.83 ft
Mon 29  Full moon 7:44 AM EDT / 4.26 ft 8:06 PM EDT / 3.77 ft
Tue 30 8:20 AM EDT / 4.24 ft 8:45 PM EDT / 3.67 ft

I would suggest at these times, especially the Monday night tide which should coincide as close as possible with the height of the storm, to watch at that time for flooding. That’s probably not the best time to be trying to leave town!
if there is flooding- you’ll probably be cut off, as the barrier beach historically floods AFTER the exit roads have -near Starbucks just over the bridge in Island Park, and Meadowbrook parkway (although the level was raised after the road was underwater in the huge noreaster in ’92.)

Is it just me, or do these things always coincide with the full moon / astronomical (as in astronomy/moon, not necessarily meaning giant!) high tides?

UPDATED RAINFALL INFORMATION

Here’s the updated Hydrometerological Prediction Center Quantitative Precipitation Forecast. We’re up to looking at 2-3 inches of rain over the next 3 days

Please see our previous post for all the links to related websites and information.

Have you packed a “Go Kit?”  check it out by clicking it

Ok, so we’ve cleaned up the yard, secured all the loose things (sure wish they did at the house they’re building up the street-I’ve seen sheets of plywood go flying in an everyday summertime thunderstorm with 35 mph winds).

Although I DO NOT RECOMMEND FOR ANYONE ELSE, and don’t wish to change anyone’s mind, as of now, we are not leaving.
I have secured some space with family north of Sunrise Highway, just in case.
I Wholeheartedly recommend you should make emergency arrangements to leave, as well-just in case.

On another note: we do have a real problem- we’re not big canned food eaters. not big on pasta either. we’re mostly into fresh food or make a masterpiece meal on Sunday we can reheat during the week.

I look at a can of string beans and get grossed out imagining the smushy yuckiness inside.

If the power goes out, i guess we’ve got the grill and it’ll be a race to eat the thawing food!

So what are you doing to prepare food-wise?

Preparing for Hurricane Sandy in Point Lookout, NY

National Weather Service Hydrometeorological Prediction Center Quantitative Precipitation Forecast HPC QPF for Tropical Storm Sandy
National Weather Service Hydrometeorological Prediction Center Quantitative Precipitation Forecast HPC QPF for Tropical Storm Sandy

So, RUMOR (in other words TV & Radio news) has it we’re expecting possible:

    • direct hit (although the target area is like 500 miles wide)
    • 90 mph winds (?)
    • 15 ft storm surge (I think our house is 12)
    • 12 inches of rain

All this from the media who usually scream… “AAAAGGH- run for cover, take shelter, don’t leave the house-it’s going to… rain!”
I notice they’re going to milk the “hurricane” status, which they all just jumped for joy shouting “hooray-I can call it a hurricane again” although all numbers they’re showing indicate it will be downgraded to tropical storm status when making landfall.

National Weather Service- Coastal Watches/Warnings and 5-Day Track Forecast Cone
National Weather Service- Coastal Watches/Warnings and 5-Day Track Forecast Cone

I prefer to keep cool and get a better sense of what is happening, but we are at about 48 hours out right now and decisions are going to have to be made.

That little voice in my head is reminding me the media are going to be WRONG. They have a habit of crying wolf, but we should all be prepare for the worst, right?

National Weather Service- Hurricane Force Wind Speed Probabilities map

National Weather Service- Hurricane Force Wind Speed Probabilities

To that end, I share the following:
PLCA have emailed links to
Town Of Hempstead – Hurricane Safety

And also how to Register for TOH Emergency Notification System
where you can be called, texted or emailed up-to-the-minute emergency information from the Town of Hempstead

Other sources:
Sea by the City in Long Beach today shared
City of Long Beach Storm Preparedness Update

NY State Division of Homeland Security and Emergency Services

Nassau County Office of Emergency Management (very quiet from them-this is their job most of all!!)

This arrived in the mail about 3 months ago and I have toyed with posting and discussing it, as it struck me as an offensive joke … if you don’t get it, we’ll discuss it later. For right now, I share it for what it is worth. I place a low value on it, as the county obviously does.

ridiculous, iunformation-free political mailing

bad joke? hope you remebered to “enact” the plan..if you didnt write down a friend or family member in the lines here, you’re probably out of luck!

Twitter links:
NOAA ‏@NOAA
Natl Hurricane Ctr ‏@NHC_Atlantic
National Weather Service ‏@usNWSgov
LIPA‏ @LIPAnews
NY State Division of Homeland Security and Emergency Services @NYSDHSES
Nassau County OEM‏ @NassauCountyOEM
NYC OEM – Notify NYC‏ @NotifyNYC
Long Beach, New York‏ @LongBeach11561

Please note-you should be able to click on the National Weather Service pictures to go to the most currently up to date version of it.

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Saturday afternoon UPDATE…
a message from the Fire Commissioner:

With the approaching storm arriving this weekend, just a reminder to all in Point Lookout and Lido…

If you hear the Fire Siren go off in a long steady continuous wail, that is the signal that you should turn on your radio or TV for an Evacuation message. We set the siren off every Saturday as a test at 12:05 pm, so if you hear it at any other time, you need to be aware that something important is coming up. We will be using the system if there is a mandatory evacuation called by County Executive Mangano.

Now is the time to plan out what you will do in event of a storm. You may be executing it in a few days.

Please pass this info on to all your family and friends. Thank you.

Chas Thompson

Fire Commissioner

Lido-Point Lookout Fire District

Please share with us any further info, sources, ideas etc you may have